How great does it feel when a law firm client you greatly admire asks you to explain your single most important belief about leadership? In this podcast interview, I discuss with a nationally respected wellness-in-business expert the not-so-obvious link between wellness and superior leadership. (Hint: Don’t worry, you definitely won’t hear “you should just go meditate…”)

My personal hero – NYT best-selling author, Harvard Medical School professor, and ADHD-pioneer/luminary Ned Hallowell, MD – invited me to explain the surprising negative impact of perfectionism on leadership. Many overachievers have told me (a former overachiever myself!) that this new view of leadership helped them kick their perfectionism to the curb once and for all. (Note: Dr. Hallowell’s podcast applies to all humans (no ADHD required!). The interview starts at :40).

Old name: “Women’s leadership program.” New name: “Program to hone leadership skills in which people invest their time, energy and attention to understand/identify/prevent (men) and learn to navigate/flourish despite/prevent (women) the complex drivers and often subtle manifestations of gender bias.”